obidankenobi ([info]obidankenobi) wrote,
@ 2008-06-19 12:33:00
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Entry tags:idiots, journalism, politics

Why do I have to tell people this kind of stuff?
The Govt's plans to restrict liquor outlets in local shopping areas is going to have the opposite effect of what i assume is their goal - to get people to drink less. How so? Well, instead of buying a bottle of vodka at small 'mum and dad' wine store for $35, people will just drive that extra minute to the large discount franchise store and buy it for $25 instead, perhaps picking up a six-pack as well. Do they really think that by eliminating the little guys who pepper the suburbs and leaving liquor sales in the hands of the larger, cheaper stores is going to stop people buying alcohol? It's only going to drive them to the cheaper warehouses and monopolistic supermarkets. Way to go, retards.

Another assumption that's being played out is that the concentration of liquor stores is causing any percieved problems, which is an outright fallacy. It's a basic tenet of capitalism that supply follows demand, not the reverse. There are loads of liquor stores in some areas because there is high demand for liquor, not the other way around. When I go to buy some cold ones, if there are two liquor stores on the block, I don't buy twice as much - that's retarded. But if I'm forced to go to a discount liquor warehouse because there are no local stores, chances are I'll buy more - for one, it's cheaper, and secondly, it's harder to get to so I'll buy more incase I don't get back again anytime soon.

A strange, non-argument some people have tried to make is that liquor stores are sometimes right next to dairies... and? There is no second half to this argument. Where are they meant to go? No one seems to have asked that question.

If it is the concentration of liquor outlets causing the 'problem', then why aren't areas with far higher concentrations having the same issues/being singled out?

Because it isn't a problem - it's a scapegoat.

PS. Why is it every time I tag an entry 'politics' or 'journalism', the 'idiots' tag nearly always follows?




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[info]petrajane
2008-06-19 01:19 am UTC (link)
When I go to buy some cold ones, if there are two liquor stores on the block, I don't buy twice as much - that's retarded.

Tell that to the people who make Resource Consent submissions/write letters to the editor! There's a (relatively) new liquor store opened on Grey Street just next to the Eastside tavern/liquor store. Before it opened there were screeds of articles/letters in the free weeklies about how kids couldn't play in Steel Park because of all the winos passed out there, and if a second store opened there would be twice as many winos and they'd all be twice as drunk. Because that's how maths works.

I was quite worried by the case of that guy who swerved his car into the two cars the other week. The news media all blithely reported that he'd been into the local liquor store three times, and they'd served him all three times -- even though the staff all knew he was drunk. Which makes them highly irresponsible, liquor stores aren't meant to serve drunks any more than bars are. But local liquor stores get to know their regulars and their buying habits, and are in a better position to say "nah mate, I think you've had enough for today" than those pretty young things who work at The Mill.

But of course, you've failed to appreciate the first tenet of capitalism, Dan. If we actually help the poor, then the rich wouldn't be so rich in comparison. Which is why it's better to blame and punish people for being uneducated, despondent and desperate.

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[info]obidankenobi
2008-06-19 01:38 am UTC (link)
If we actually help the poor, then the rich wouldn't be so rich in comparison. Which is why it's better to blame and punish people for being uneducated, despondent and desperate.

I'm sure Adam Smith, the proto-capitalist, didn't see it that way. Distorted, much?

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[info]kalbeast
2008-06-19 06:53 am UTC (link)
Im much more likely to buy booze at my local, regardless of price, because I find the supermarket to be a huge inconvenient bore and I hate going there. If the local store closed Id definately drink less. But then I have not much time and plenty of cash, so I value convenience much more than paying $10 less

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[info]obidankenobi
2008-06-19 12:38 pm UTC (link)
I think it's evident in your post you realise this, but you're not the kind of guy I imagine the Govt is trying to stop drinking.

I remember parties from ten years ago - you're awesome when you're drinking! Haha.

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